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does he identify with chuck hagel? both have seen the bitter pill they've had to swallow from their own party. >> look, relationships matter a lot in the senate. this is a situation where a republican has really frayed relations with many members in his own party because of the stances he took in iraq and on other issues. remember, tamron, a lot of these republican senators who voted against him didn't serve with chuck hagel. it's a very new, younger republican conference. they really only know him from the anti-iraq positions that he took, as well as some of the other thing he's did, such as endorsing deb fisher's opponent. >> to that point, roger, the senator was on msnbc earlier today. here what's he said. it has nothing to do with the personal issues laid out by senator mccain. let me play it. >> this doesn't have anything to do with a grudge. this has something to do with picking the best person to be the leader of the largest defense organization in the world. he's not the right guy for dod. he's well to the left
does he identify with chuck hagel? both have seen the bitter pill they've had to swallow from their own party. >> look, relationships matter a lot in the senate. this is a situation where a republican has really frayed relations with many members in his own party because of the stances he took in iraq and on other issues. remember, tamron, a lot of these republican senators who voted against him didn't serve with chuck hagel. it's a very new, younger republican conference. they really...
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an opponent to hagel. thanks for joining us today. >> glad to be with you, thank you. >> now that he's sworn in, what would you like to see as you monitor how he does at the pentagon? >> you know, let me say this, andrea, i view this as yesterday's story. we made a good case that this was a flawed candidate. he's my secretary and yours. i wish him well. as a matter of fact, the first thing i want to do under sequestration is give the secretary of defense and the president of the united states the flexibility under the overall cap to move money around and make the sequestration cuts as painless and less disruptive as possible. >> well, do you think that the confirmation battle weakened him and do you have any regrets about the way that confirmation battle was undertaken by his critics? >> i think we made an honorable case. i still believe his pronouncements and positions over time put him way outside the bipartisan foreign policy mainstream but the president was able to hold his democratic votes, even among
an opponent to hagel. thanks for joining us today. >> glad to be with you, thank you. >> now that he's sworn in, what would you like to see as you monitor how he does at the pentagon? >> you know, let me say this, andrea, i view this as yesterday's story. we made a good case that this was a flawed candidate. he's my secretary and yours. i wish him well. as a matter of fact, the first thing i want to do under sequestration is give the secretary of defense and the president of...
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hagel got only 58. republicans said they wanted to spend more time to dig into his back ground and now they got it. >> i hope one democrat will look at chuck hagel's record and some of the outrageous statements they made about israel and reconsider have one democrat vote no. if he could find one democrat to vote no the flood gates would open. >> he wanted to install the confirmation until the white house reveals more information about the benghazi terror attack. president obama never called any officials in libya until the smoke had cleared and four americans were dead. now he has a chance to get even more information. another republican senator ted cruise in texas sl raising red blaggs about a possible conflict of interest with chuck hagel just because he won't release some financial discloesh ours. they were wondering why hagel didn't disclose certain speeches he made as they were coming to light. president obama thinks all of the opposition is responsible. >> it's unfortunate that this kind of politi
hagel got only 58. republicans said they wanted to spend more time to dig into his back ground and now they got it. >> i hope one democrat will look at chuck hagel's record and some of the outrageous statements they made about israel and reconsider have one democrat vote no. if he could find one democrat to vote no the flood gates would open. >> he wanted to install the confirmation until the white house reveals more information about the benghazi terror attack. president obama...
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chuck hagel bent backwards to show how mainstream his views are the senators kept accusing him of not being mainstream enough and they kept using the word mainstream over and over again during this hearing chuck hagel has walked back on a number of positions he had taken earlier he kept apologizing again and again and chuck hagel went to great lengths to show that he is in no way going to challenge washington's core foreign policy beliefs as one of the senators put it it was quite an exhausting hearing considering the senators were asking almost the same questions and roughly eighty percent of them had to do with chuck hagel previous statements on israel and iran there was so much mentioning of israel that at some point they were confirming him as secretary of defense for israel i couldn't count how many times he said all options are on the table with regards to iran again and again saying a strike on iran is an option an option that he had previously called irresponsible by the way here's what chuck hagel kept repeating throughout the hearing get the united nations behind you get the
chuck hagel bent backwards to show how mainstream his views are the senators kept accusing him of not being mainstream enough and they kept using the word mainstream over and over again during this hearing chuck hagel has walked back on a number of positions he had taken earlier he kept apologizing again and again and chuck hagel went to great lengths to show that he is in no way going to challenge washington's core foreign policy beliefs as one of the senators put it it was quite an exhausting...
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senate confirms chuck hagel. what increased demand for cocoanuts has failed to bear fruit for indonesia as farmers. pope benedict xvi is making his final appearance in st. peter's square as the roman catholic pope -- his final appearance in at st. peter's square. he is the first pope in 600 years to resign. >> in these recent months, i felt my weakening strength. i prayed and asked for in light meant to make the right decision for the good of the church. >> barbara, amid the huge outpouring of affection from the faithful gathered there. >> absolutely. a lot of people have turned out to say goodbye to pope benedict xvi. 50,000 tickets were sold. it is more likely that there are about 150,000 people around the vatican and the main road that leads to it. people are still walking towards st. peter's square, but they're being redirected to other parts around the square where there are big screens where they can watch the pope. nothing compared to the figures of the people we saw for the funeral of john paul back in 20
senate confirms chuck hagel. what increased demand for cocoanuts has failed to bear fruit for indonesia as farmers. pope benedict xvi is making his final appearance in st. peter's square as the roman catholic pope -- his final appearance in at st. peter's square. he is the first pope in 600 years to resign. >> in these recent months, i felt my weakening strength. i prayed and asked for in light meant to make the right decision for the good of the church. >> barbara, amid the huge...
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chuck hagel bent backwards to show how mainstream his views are the senators kept accusing him of not being mainstream enough and they kept using the word mainstream over and over again during this hearing chuck hagel has walked back on a number of positions he had taken earlier he kept apologizing again and again and chuck hagel went to great lengths to show that he is in no way going to challenge washington's core foreign policy beliefs as one of the senators put it it was quite an exhausting hearing considering the senators were asking almost the same questions and roughly eighty percent of them had to do with chuck hagel previous statements on israel and iran there was so much mentioning of israel that at some point they were confirming him as secretary of defense for israel i couldn't count how many times he said all options are on the table with regards to iran again and again saying a strike on iran is an option an option that he had previously called irresponsible by the way here's what chuck hagel test repeating throughout the hearing get the united nations behind you get the
chuck hagel bent backwards to show how mainstream his views are the senators kept accusing him of not being mainstream enough and they kept using the word mainstream over and over again during this hearing chuck hagel has walked back on a number of positions he had taken earlier he kept apologizing again and again and chuck hagel went to great lengths to show that he is in no way going to challenge washington's core foreign policy beliefs as one of the senators put it it was quite an exhausting...
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why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq. but it immediately becomes about vietnam. it's as how they're talking about. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder which of course mccain and hagel both served in. when mccain talks about iraq, he only wants to talk about it from the surge on, it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count. and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not. the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam and he doesn't want to have that argument. >> here he is, joy, why don't you respond to mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle. he wouldn't let go of the question of the surge. back again to the old war. >> will you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the surge being th
why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq. but it immediately becomes about vietnam. it's as how they're talking about. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder which of course mccain and hagel both served in. when mccain talks about iraq, he only wants to talk about it from the surge on, it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count....
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is chuck hagel going to be confirmed as secretary of state? and also john brennan is still hanging out there. >> if he is, i think he will be very weakened secretary of defense. he has not given a good performance so far. my concern is the obama administration has gone from people like bob gates and jim jones, to basically pals of the president, cronies from senate, people who have never really run anything. i'm not so much worried about the policies as i am by the people. >> i guess that tom is right he will be confirmed. this has been become an extremely partisan debate, unusual for secretary of defense. he will be significantly weakened especially in what he's going to need to do. you have a real battle shaping up now for who-- how the pie is divided in terms of military spending, and congress will play a big role, and his ability to work with congress, sadly after this confirmation process is reduced. >> schieffer: margaret, are we ever going to get the answer to what the president knew that night that those four americans lost their lives
is chuck hagel going to be confirmed as secretary of state? and also john brennan is still hanging out there. >> if he is, i think he will be very weakened secretary of defense. he has not given a good performance so far. my concern is the obama administration has gone from people like bob gates and jim jones, to basically pals of the president, cronies from senate, people who have never really run anything. i'm not so much worried about the policies as i am by the people. >> i...
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chuck hagel watching this. the president is not going to get forced to pull back on this. >> he got re-elected and he wants his guy. the guy he wants is someone he's sympa sympatico with. he'll have to deal with these republicans who have this personal vendetta against him. he does carry this baggage. and i think these performance issues have not helped. his performance in his confirmation hearing did not make people inside the white house more confident about him. but, again, second term presidents, their level of confidence, who they want for the reasons they want them carry the day. >> john mccain, we saw all sides of him this week. there was the john mccain who told ted cruz, hey, you've gone too far. then there was the john mccain who went and decided to filibuster his former friend. and then there was the john mccain who was basically totally honest about why he's really -- he didn't say why he was opposing him, but explained why so many republican senators -- >> and it undercuts the benghazi arguments. i
chuck hagel watching this. the president is not going to get forced to pull back on this. >> he got re-elected and he wants his guy. the guy he wants is someone he's sympa sympatico with. he'll have to deal with these republicans who have this personal vendetta against him. he does carry this baggage. and i think these performance issues have not helped. his performance in his confirmation hearing did not make people inside the white house more confident about him. but, again, second term...
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chuck hagel narrowly wins u.s. senate approval to become the new defense secretary but his policies draw fire from capitol hill especially among his own fellow republicans. italy upsets the austerity apple cart as voters say no to more cuts but leave parliament in turmoil raising fears the country's political crisis will negatively impact the euro. and how's this for a minor traffic of fat the shocking video posted by a russian comp all of their eight year old daughter driving and dangerous speeds. from our studios in moscow you're watching r t with me and he said no way our top story this hour chuck hagel is now officially the u.s. defense secretary but only after being narrowly approved by the senate he's been under fire from fellow republicans for his past criticism of the iraq war and the israeli lobby with some believing he could also be too soft on iraq it's also just two days before billions of dollars in budget cuts are scheduled to hit the military can now on the clash on capitol hill. chuck hagel was conf
chuck hagel narrowly wins u.s. senate approval to become the new defense secretary but his policies draw fire from capitol hill especially among his own fellow republicans. italy upsets the austerity apple cart as voters say no to more cuts but leave parliament in turmoil raising fears the country's political crisis will negatively impact the euro. and how's this for a minor traffic of fat the shocking video posted by a russian comp all of their eight year old daughter driving and dangerous...
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in ministration well i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern i have is that he is being nominated for the wrong job to carry out those positions his defense secretary if he is a if he is if he's approved to be as defense secretary he will not be the person in charge of creating or implementing strategies of iran or any other foreign policy issue. he will be he will be at the defense department doing quintessentially defense secretary things in this environment which is to cut the budget and try to keep the united states out of another war now that peace try to keep the united states out of another war could have impact here but the problem is he what he could potentially try to keep united states out of another war without being able to either to offer a vision for another way to deal with this challenge the islamic republic poses a real challenge for the united states and a real challenge to israel in the region that challenges to significantly constrain both the united state
in ministration well i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern i have is that he is being nominated for the wrong job to carry out those positions his defense secretary if he is a if he is if he's approved to be as defense secretary he will not be the person in charge of creating or implementing strategies of iran or any other foreign policy issue. he will be he will be at the defense...
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burke and previously chuck hagel voted against sanctions but today's chuck hagel as we found out during this hearing is for sanctions to those who believe mr haye go was in favor of direct negotiations with iran as he had previously claimed he was he offered a correction a very big one he tried to blur his response as much as he could here's what he said i don't have a problem with engaging i think great powers engaging engagement is clearly in our interest that's not negotiation engagement is not appeasement engagement is not sure under so no direct negotiations with iran here's another example of how chuck hagel had to walk back on some of his previous statements at one time he said and this is become a famous quote the political reality is that the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here i've always argued against some of the dumb things they do because i don't think it's in the interest of is world and of quote here's chuck hagel during this confirmation hearing noted that i. that i should have used another term and i'm sorry and i regret i mean do your use of intimidation.
burke and previously chuck hagel voted against sanctions but today's chuck hagel as we found out during this hearing is for sanctions to those who believe mr haye go was in favor of direct negotiations with iran as he had previously claimed he was he offered a correction a very big one he tried to blur his response as much as he could here's what he said i don't have a problem with engaging i think great powers engaging engagement is clearly in our interest that's not negotiation engagement is...
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hagel won the last needed vote yesterday when alabama senator shelby gave his support. a vote is expected next week. 15 g.o.p. senators urged president obama yesterday to withdraw his nomination saying hagel lacked bipartisan support and the confidence to do the job. >> president obama is welcoming japan's new prime minister to the white house today arriving in washington, dc, yesterday, and is the 5 the prime minister of japan since president obama took office. they will meet today at a time of high tension stoked by a territorial dispute between japan and china. he is a keen advocate of stronger relations withed withed with, that remain key to policy in asia. >> not korea will allow phoners to visit to tweet, skype, and serve the internet on their cell phones or other mobile devices. the big decision follows last month's visit by google executive chairman. a mobile link provider will launch a network by march 1 available only to foreigners, not to those living in north korea. >> they are taking to the street to demand action on immigration reform. why these students s
hagel won the last needed vote yesterday when alabama senator shelby gave his support. a vote is expected next week. 15 g.o.p. senators urged president obama yesterday to withdraw his nomination saying hagel lacked bipartisan support and the confidence to do the job. >> president obama is welcoming japan's new prime minister to the white house today arriving in washington, dc, yesterday, and is the 5 the prime minister of japan since president obama took office. they will meet today at a...
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defense chief sparks of brow on capitol hill with some republicans wary chuck hagel foreign policies may be too soft for their liking. forcing their eight year old girl to speed at one hundred kilometers an hour on the snowy road a russian couple have caused anger in the online community with the latest viral video showcasing extreme examples of russian driving. and reaches an economic and political dead end as the country's crucial general election delivers no clear winner with the population massively rejecting austerity policies. live from moscow you're with archie where it's three pm it's twelve noon in rome but we begin in washington this hour where capitol hill has been shaken by a major bipartisan clash over the new defense secretary chuck hagel was narrowly approved by the senate after coming under fire from fellow republicans for past criticism of the iraq war and the jewish lobby with some believing he could also be too soft on iraq cam reports chuck hagel was confirmed by the senate fifty eight votes for forty one vote against a narrow vote as you can see but he can find a
defense chief sparks of brow on capitol hill with some republicans wary chuck hagel foreign policies may be too soft for their liking. forcing their eight year old girl to speed at one hundred kilometers an hour on the snowy road a russian couple have caused anger in the online community with the latest viral video showcasing extreme examples of russian driving. and reaches an economic and political dead end as the country's crucial general election delivers no clear winner with the population...
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had said previously that there is too much war talk going on and maybe by nominating chuck hagel he wanted to play down because too many people here in washington are too eager to talk war just during the confirmation hearing the word war was mentioned one hundred twenty times the word iran one hundred eight times by comparison of ghana's than the war that the u.s. is fighting right now just twenty six mentions of course those are just words but they may very well show how eager many many in washington are to discuss new wars without even having finished the old ones. for british m.p.'s who was stressed or depressed online we got the story of why politicians will soon be getting free mental health treatment without even having to leave westminster. plus a top secret document surfaces revealing his plans for military involvement and money dot com we lift the lid on the plans of the world's most feared terror network. libya is braced for fresh unrest the second anniversary of the revolution that toppled gadhafi is being held under the threat of violence security is tight and foreign i
had said previously that there is too much war talk going on and maybe by nominating chuck hagel he wanted to play down because too many people here in washington are too eager to talk war just during the confirmation hearing the word war was mentioned one hundred twenty times the word iran one hundred eight times by comparison of ghana's than the war that the u.s. is fighting right now just twenty six mentions of course those are just words but they may very well show how eager many many in...
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. >>> i'm going to go chuck hagel when i finish here and say i'm sorry, sorry this has happened. i'm sorry for the president. i'm sorry for the country and i'm sorry for you, but we're not going to give up on you. >> democrats vowing to stand by their man, even as republicans delivered a sharp rebuke to fellow republican chuck hagel this week in his bid to become defense secretary. joining me now is republican senator john barrasso from wyoming. senator, thanks for being here. >> thank you, candy. >> something caught our eye that senator mccain said in explaining the republican -- part of the republican resistance to hagel in which he says it goes back to there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly, at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover and said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war which is nonsense and was very anti his own party and people. people don't forget that. is this a revenge vote? mean, this seems -- i understand that people, a lot of republica
. >>> i'm going to go chuck hagel when i finish here and say i'm sorry, sorry this has happened. i'm sorry for the president. i'm sorry for the country and i'm sorry for you, but we're not going to give up on you. >> democrats vowing to stand by their man, even as republicans delivered a sharp rebuke to fellow republican chuck hagel this week in his bid to become defense secretary. joining me now is republican senator john barrasso from wyoming. senator, thanks for being here....
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had said previously that there is too much war talk going on and maybe by nominating chuck hagel he wanted to play down because too many people here in washington are too eager to talk war just during the confirmation hearing the word war was mentioned one hundred twenty times the word iran one hundred eight times by comparison of ghana's than the war that the u.s. is fighting right now just twenty six mentions of course those are just words but they may very well show how eager many many in washington are to discuss new wars without even having finished the old ones. help is at hand for british m.p.'s who is stressed or depressed online we've got the story of why politicians will soon be getting free mental health treatment without even having to leave westminster. plus a top secret documents surfaces revealing his plans for military involvement in money dot com we lift the lid on the plans of the world's most feared terror network. libya is braced for fresh unrest the second anniversary of the revolution that toppled gadhafi is being held under the threat of violence security is t
had said previously that there is too much war talk going on and maybe by nominating chuck hagel he wanted to play down because too many people here in washington are too eager to talk war just during the confirmation hearing the word war was mentioned one hundred twenty times the word iran one hundred eight times by comparison of ghana's than the war that the u.s. is fighting right now just twenty six mentions of course those are just words but they may very well show how eager many many in...
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blocking chuck hagel's nomination is that somebody who had seen chuck hagel give a speech six years ago had later written the blog post about the speech in which he did not quote chuck hagel, but he asserted that chuck hagel had said awful things in the speech. no quotations of anything chuck hagel said there are certainly no transcripts or recordings of anything he said there is no direct attribution of anything that chuck hagel said at all. but lindsey graham and kelly ayotte wrote to chuck hagel is asking him to explain whether that blogger was right. chuck hagel amazingly responded to that with words be. the nature of the demand was unusual, right? especially for two senators who like to maintain themselves as very serious people on the issue of foreign policy. well, that whole incident followed up the blowup around the friends of hamas thing. the friends of hamas thing i can do far less justice that than comedy central can. behold stephen colbert. >> according to conservative news anger gator, breitbart.com, hagel may have taken money from an organization called friends of hama
blocking chuck hagel's nomination is that somebody who had seen chuck hagel give a speech six years ago had later written the blog post about the speech in which he did not quote chuck hagel, but he asserted that chuck hagel had said awful things in the speech. no quotations of anything chuck hagel said there are certainly no transcripts or recordings of anything he said there is no direct attribution of anything that chuck hagel said at all. but lindsey graham and kelly ayotte wrote to chuck...
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in the ministration well if he i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern i have is that he is being nominated for the wrong job to carry out those positions his defense secretary if he is or if he is if he's approved to be as defense secretary he will not be the person in charge of creating or implementing strategies of iran or any other foreign policy issue. he will be he will be at the defensive. i mean doing quintessentially defense secretary things in this environment which is to cut the budget and try to keep the united states out of another war now that peace try to keep the united states out of another war could have impact here but the problem is he what he could potentially try to keep united states out of another war without being able to either to offer a vision for another way to deal with this challenge the islamic republic poses a real challenge for the united states and a real challenge to israel in the region that challenges to significantly constrain both the u
in the ministration well if he i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern i have is that he is being nominated for the wrong job to carry out those positions his defense secretary if he is or if he is if he's approved to be as defense secretary he will not be the person in charge of creating or implementing strategies of iran or any other foreign policy issue. he will be he will be at the...
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had said previously that there is too much of your talk going on and maybe by nominating chuck hagel he wanted to play down because too many people here in washington are too eager to talk war just during the confirmation hearing the word war was mentioned one hundred twenty times the word iran one hundred eight times by comparison of ghana's than the war that the u.s. is fighting right now just twenty six mentions of course those are just words but they may very well show how eager many many in washington are to discuss new wars without even having finished the old ones. the british government's programme of cuts has resulted in a drastic drop in the number of police officers to the lowest level in over a decade and radical reform package is already sparked many security questions or he had a chance to ask m.p.'s on both sides of the argument if the fears are reasonable. in the number of police offices up to the lowest levels for eleven years is the impact of a twenty percent cut and whitehall funding to police budgets takes effect which is think more about these. joined by conserva
had said previously that there is too much of your talk going on and maybe by nominating chuck hagel he wanted to play down because too many people here in washington are too eager to talk war just during the confirmation hearing the word war was mentioned one hundred twenty times the word iran one hundred eight times by comparison of ghana's than the war that the u.s. is fighting right now just twenty six mentions of course those are just words but they may very well show how eager many many...
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a number of republican senators including john mccain say chuck hagel is not qualified for the job but they indicate that they're going to allow the full senate to vote because what happened ten days ago was that the senators voted to postpone the vote and to continue the debate so it's all likely that they're going to keep stalling the vote over chuck hagel is confirmation and he will be confirmed there's no doubt about that the votes are there but the humiliation that he had to go through during these last few months sent a message all by itself right now chuck hagel is this repenting figure who keeps apologizing for the positions he had taken before for the statements he had made before including that war with iran should not be an option including his criticism of israel's actions and other foreign policy views that he had expressed as a senator the congress effectively showed their readiness to destroy anyone who would allow themselves to descend from washington's core foreign policy belief so despite all the apologizing that mr hagel has done one senator said he almost had tears
a number of republican senators including john mccain say chuck hagel is not qualified for the job but they indicate that they're going to allow the full senate to vote because what happened ten days ago was that the senators voted to postpone the vote and to continue the debate so it's all likely that they're going to keep stalling the vote over chuck hagel is confirmation and he will be confirmed there's no doubt about that the votes are there but the humiliation that he had to go through...
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the ticked-off hagel, is it just for show? the basic unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and some didn't? is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win the war or end it? what is it about john mccain that seems to excite those who know nothing about vietnam. well tonight we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tortured him, not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stain mccain's reputation. but just like he did, in the same army of america's long nightmare in vietnam. i'm joined by david corn with "mother jones" and joy reed with the grio. i have to tell you i'm convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this, here's senator john mccain, he did a long, angry wind-up before he launched into his first so-called question. it was really an indictment for former senate colleague and former friend and fellow vietnam veteran, chuck hagel. it included put-downs, as well as reference does vietnam
the ticked-off hagel, is it just for show? the basic unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and some didn't? is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win the war or end it? what is it about john mccain that seems to excite those who know nothing about vietnam. well tonight we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tortured him, not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who...